Masturbation is Suicide

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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Metanoian » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:16 am

It does become an addiction. A very unhealthy one. It's a much better use of your time to pursue romantic interests and gain pleasure through them. Because masturbation, especially for men, is without feeling. Emotional feeling, I am referring to. Most men just want to "rub out a quick one" while staring blankly at a screen.

If you're going to masturbate, it should be something special. Like making love to yourself. I know it sounds very humorous, but watch the way a woman masturbates. She flips into some mental fantasy and can reach incredible heights of pleasure. Treating her body like something sacred. A lesson we all should consider and attempt to learn. The human body is sacred. Pornography cheapens it, and so does mechanical masturbation without emotion.

Capsaicin, I am glad someone understands what I'm trying to say here, and sees the wisdom of it. ;)
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Capsaicin » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:13 pm

So far 2013 has been masturbation and wet dream free! Hallelujah
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Metanoian » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:25 am

The longer you go, the easier it becomes I find. Just like some men say masturbation is a part of their lifestyle, so is the opposite.

Make romance and love your lifestyle ;)
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Capsaicin » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:28 pm

You are right man. Males have both male and female energies that need or rely on the females energies to flourish etc Pornography is an artificial synthetic illusion of a female encounter. But there is no warm gentle touch,kiss,embrace and caresss , along with the exchange of fluids and sounds.

To be a adamant romantic who is on the verge of a female connection is way better than a lost soul releasing his vital energy into a sock or kleenex.
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by minderbinder » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:49 pm

i should be long dead and burried by wondrously animated peoples of socks - why the heck doesn't it work??
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Flapjack » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:16 pm

The good Lord Jesus Christ preaches how the simple act of wanting to hurt someone is committing murder, even if you don't physically do anything, and that the simple act of looking at a woman in a sexual way is committing adultery. For you have committed the act in your heart. So the questionably innocent act of masturbating is at par with any other lewd or grotesque sexual act one can think of.

The homosexual, the heterosexual and the "virgin" masturbator are thus all equal in sin. The reason why anal and oral sex was forbidden is because you can not conceive a child that way. This doesn't single out homosexuals, the bible was misconstrued to single them out. The truth in the scriptures is that any man that has sexual intercourse for any other reason than to have a child has done evil, and anyone who so much as looks at a woman for sexual gratification has on all accounts committed the same evil.

So we are all equal in sin, no matter how blameless you think you may be: homosexual, heterosexual, masturbator, rapist, necrophiliac, regular joe, etcetera. There is no one righteous on the earth, and every godly citizen is torn with hypocrisy.

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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Metanoian » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:54 pm

Sex only for procreation is ridiculous. Sex should be about love, a sharing of that love. At present we are given the choice whether we want children or not. If we don't want children, are we then sworn to a life of celibacy? The bible doesn't condemn homosexuals, but says they must live a celibate life?

The bible is outdated nonsense. Read something more spiritually worth while Flappy.
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Flapjack » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:20 pm

Sex is lust, it's not love. The purest form of love that I can think of is between a man and his son, between a mother and her daughter. A love like that requires no sex. Sex perverts it. That's the only form of love I can think of that doesn't involve hunger. You can love money, drugs, sex and so forth, but they're all inspired by hunger and thirst.

We'd like to think sex is a beautiful and spiritual connection between two souls, but it's not. It's an animalistic, primal hunger that devours people and consumes love. Love and sex are synonymous, but they are not the same thing. Sex is a pervertion of love. Sex is a hunger, love is something devoid of that insatiable lust. Confusing the two is dangerous.

I believe in what Jesus said. We have no right to pass judgement on less developed countries who have prostitute slaves that get passed around and raped and beaten. We look down on them, but in the darkness of our rooms, we commit the same evil. You might say watching porn isn't anywhere near as evil as physically raping or demanding sex from someone. But when you watch porn, you are watching just that, you are promoting it and you become part of the act that is taking place.

Sure American pornstars are treated better and live better than bangladesh prostitutes, but it's the same kind of evil that's being propagated, only disguised as somehow healthy or normal. The truth is that it's not so innocent and you hungering over your porn videos is no different than the bangladesh shop owner's insatiable brothel sprees. And these things cause grief.

Love and sex are not the same thing. Think of how many children suffer because people are too busy trying to find "sex-love" than giving true love. Sex to rear an offspring, and to love that child is the only sex and love that does not involve your selfish hunger and devouring greed. Sex is not a righteous activity. I would like for you to explain to me how it is.

The Bible certainly is not infallible. The written language itself can not be infallible. The Bible contradicts itself in many places, proves itself wrong and is very primitive. It only accounts for a quarter of the world and just a small period in human history, which is strong evidence that it was written by men durring the time and in the location. Though some things it has written in it are still applicable and these beliefs don't come solely from it alone.

There was a boy who approached Jesus and asked him how he could get into heaven. Jesus said that he must follow the commandments and love his God whole heartedly. The boy said he already does that and he'd been doing it all his life. Then Jesus said that if he wanted to be perfect before the Lord, he must take everything he owns and give it to the poor. The boy walked away upset and dissapointed, because he owned many valuable things.

The point is Jesus wasn't preaching what people wanted to hear.
Maybe this isn't correct though, maybe it's okay to have sex for fun and live life to the fullest.
I don't know. I don't follow any of the things Jesus taught.

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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Capsaicin » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:04 am

Sex is an act of nature which is innocent and full of love in the right conditions.When two beings in sound mind consent to burning a rug, then it is love at that very moment, even if it isn't permanent. For example I met this young lady at a dance club. I danced with her for a bit then she disappeared. She reappeared then danced again and wanted to get to know me etc Yes she was under the influence of alcohol. I made out with her and proceeded to exchange numbers. I met with her again after exchanging text at her place which wasn't too far from mine. I wasn't looking to sex with her but we ended up getting to know each other and spending the whole and early morning connecting. If thoughts hadn't pervaded my heart, she would of been my girlfriend and possibly wife. But she had some kind of moles on her vagina that looked like genital warts,so that killed the love.

I hope that made sense, that I believe that sex in the right conditions is an act of love. Just as giving a homeless guy a dollar for getting a cheeseburger at mcdonalds. right? I use to think that they are 2 kinds of love like you stated above. The love between a mother and daughter is the purest and most innocent or between a father and son. But that same love that we were taught, we seek it out in others and only a select few get the same amount. I guess enlightenment would be giving that love to everybody regardless of gender,ethnicity and finances.
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Re: Masturbation is Suicide

Post by Flapjack » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:10 am

That sounds to me like two people trying to blow off some steam. I am under the impression that you and that girl do not really care about eachother at all, and if it weren't for the sex part, would not of even socialized with one another.

I'm trying to be a scientist now. It's pretty cool. Maybe one day I'll get my doctorate. My doctorate in love. I can't relate to what you're talking about, because I'm an outcast. Surely there are morcels of love-like emotions shared between you and a random girl or homeless person, but is that truly love or a fleating sense of sucerity, affection, erection, overflowed dopamine receptors? Maybe love is a more intellectual thing than a biological thing. I give homeless people money all the time, but I can't say I love them. Sometimes I think I do, but I'm crazy and think I love everything sometimes even though I hate everyone. If that homeless person spent one day in my house I'm sure I'd hate his guts.

What is love? Is it being infatuated with this ladies tits you found on 4tube that you just can't for the meantime get out of your perverted head and feel the need to jerk off to incessantly? I thought I was an ass man, maybe not. I just watched a documentary about some Japanese guy who ate a girl because he was so entranced by her beautiful ass. He shot her in the head and ate her ass, thigh and breast. The guy is a free man and the sick Japanese made a celebrity out of him forwhich he was able to profit from. Now he says his ultimate fantasy is for a girl to kill him because he wants to die. He doesn't really love anyone though, he loves their juicy meats.

Sex is a drug as far as I understand it, which also carries a bunch of emotional baggage with it. Love however can be less complicated I think, and doesn't involve such a carnivorous appetite. If we didn't have gentitals, the world would probably be a much more peaceful place despite the extinction of all multicellular species. If we didn't have to eat, the world would be an even more peaceful place, but we have to do these things to stay alive so there are proposes restrictions to these acts which many have deemed sinful. Even eating food, that's why many say grace, fast or sacrifice. There are reasons religion condemned these things. There is a deeper understanding associated with it. When Jesus says don't have sex, it's for reasons that stretch beyond what is immediatly apparent.

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