Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

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Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by Nikola » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:37 am

So, I fell in love with Cacao. Raw cacao, just eating beans 20-40 of them.
Lifts me up like nothing else, I love it.

And then I google it and see there's a bunch of side effects like long-term addiction ("one of the most addictive substances in the world") side effects like paranoia, anxiety etc.
Now, this is not one source, but a bunch of sources.

Now, I'm guessing this is simply bullshit.

Anyone thinks/knows raw cacao is bad?

This is an example of such an article: http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/is-raw ... y-healthy/
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by minderbinder » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:48 pm

This is why chocolate makes you feel so good and is so addictive
I'd say it's as much bullshit as my quote above from the linked article is bullshit. i never experienced any slightest "high", neither from chocolate nor pure cocoa. if ingested enough cocoa it's maybe like some coffee or tea, a little different, ok, but that's about it for me. or does "raw" mean green or unroasted? is there something that gets lost by processing?
Of course, eating 100g at once of cocoa beans doesn't have to be very healthy ... hypes, anti-hypes, oh blessed folly :)
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by witchammer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:12 am

I see people at the store returning cans for cocoa .........they are kids though! No seriously what they catagorize as addiction is weird. They say ciggarettes are worse than heroin. The fact is obviously you would rather your kids smoke than hit the vein but because most need to intake tobacco like every 30 min. and can go without stopping for like 50 years and that more people in society do it so its widespread and more die from it, its worse! You have to know what variables they are considering. For one thing almost every woman on the planet craves it. Anyone I know that has used to much extract of it has learned a jittery lesson. Its sold in every food store ect.

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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by Nikola » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:09 am

We're all different I guess. Cacao (you're right, it's roasted actually) really makes me feel happier and concentrated. I get a nice little rush and I really enjoy it.
What made it even more appealing to me was that I thought it was super healthy.

Seems like this is not so true.
There's a guy here: http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/11/ ... o-incident
who talks about his experience with long term cacao use (year and a half I think). He ended up with a rash on his skin, bad liver etc etc.

In the comments below I see most people report a similar experience.

I guess I'll take it a bit easier on the cacao.
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by minderbinder » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:22 am

maybe the health issues are more connected to the mentioned funghi, so boiling might be better. as far as the funghi are harmed by that?
what i actually found quite nice was mixing pure cocoa dekokt with strong green tea, but it almost gives me kind of a little crash, afterwards :) additionally mixed with theanine and chili (theanine and chili can also just be t&wd) it's great, but altogether better for winter - gives me strong heat sensations
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by Nikola » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:53 am

These guys are mostly raw food dieters, so the whole mineral depletion could be connected to it.
Not sure, I guess the best way to find out would be to have the mineral test and see what's happening, like the guy in the video said.

Green tea and cacao is definitely a great mix :). Love to mix it with Yerba Mate too.
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by jbmac » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:42 pm

everything in moderation, even too much water can hurt you, too much salt, too much protien, too much chocolate, hurry let's make everything illegal to save the children!

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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by minderbinder » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:18 pm

why does no one ever think of the children?
:D :D :D
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by Nikola » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:55 am

minderbinder wrote:why does no one ever think of the children?
:D :D :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

:D
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Re: Raw Cacao addiction? WTF?

Post by minderbinder » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:54 pm

exactly the scene i had in mind - so funny :D
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