Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor

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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by Electric » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:00 am

Well, Jacky, I'm pretty sure that it would do most of them. BUT I feel like many people here are trying the wrong type of cat's claw. The "common" Cat's Claw is Uncaria tomentosa, this type is mostly used for the immune system. The kind of Cat's Claw that you guys are looking for is Uncaria Rynchophyllia. This type is used more commonly in Traditional Chinese Medicine, and sometimes refered to as Gambir. It contains Mitraphylline and Rynchophylline. If you check it out, it has an almost identical chemical make-up as "Mellow Gold" Kratom...

Just make sure that you're using the right Cat's Claw...

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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by minderbinder » Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:30 am

grrr. shit, just got a pack of cat's claw yesterday, then i found this thread - not sure if i got it, is it risky to take it with fluoxetin and stuff?

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couldn't find anything to this on the net, there's seems to be no known risk ...
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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by MindGarden » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:14 am

fluoxetine should be ok if cat's claw is indeed mao-b inhibitor.

the danger with SSRIs + MAOI is serotonin syndrome.
mao-a metabolizes serotonin, so mao-b would be safe.

be warned that these inhibitors lose selectivity at high doses,
i.e. if you take a high dose of a mao-b inhibitor, it will inhibit mao-a.
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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by minderbinder » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:56 pm

great, thanks MindGarden!

i'm really curious on una de gato, might be just what i need
(once more, but who knows :))
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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by Electric » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:24 pm

Swim just received a pound of the Uncaria Rynchophylla. He will keep posted with updates...

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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by minderbinder » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:38 pm

been chewing little amunts of the shredded bark or what the material is on my way to work and felt somehow lightheaded, but that might have been placebo.
let's see.
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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by Electric » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Minderbender, which type of Cat's Claw are you using?

Swim finds that Chinese Cat's Claw goes great with Sinomenium, graviola, and a bit of stephania. Swim is using them all at mid-high TCM doses, in combination.
Swim just needs to get some vodka, so he can really get to the good stuff!

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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by minderbinder » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:13 pm

hm, should be tomentosa - but not really sure
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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by Electric » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:26 pm

Is it a light cream colored bark? If so, that is going to be Uncaria torm.
If it looks literally like the claw of a cat, then you have Uncaria Rynch. or Gambir.

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Re: Cat's Claw - MAO-B Inhibitor -

Post by minderbinder » Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:34 am

it's shredded, looks like reddish-beige-brown short pieces of thin yarn.
had problems to get to sleep the days i tried it, but i'm not sure, got to test again

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btw. - if rhynchophylla is u. gambir then gambir bark should be the right product? i mean, if looking for that "other" cat's claw?
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