I agree Peoploid, we humans know very little about what is Truly going on in this vastly mysterious universe but I feel we can find glimmers of Truth from various places (Salvia being one of them) to put a few scant pieces of this puzzle together. The topic of nothingness is interesting especially in light of Buddhism (Zen Buddhism specifically). They believe that nothingness is the ultimate thing but Master Li Hongzhi has this to say about the matter:http://en.falundafa.org/eng/html/zfl2/zfl2.htm#10
There is also two interesting Lecture excerpts where he goes on to say this:Excerpt 1:
“What is "nothingness"? I mentioned before that people thought "emptiness" meant that nothing exists. And some people have said that "nothingness" meant not having anything exist. If nothingness truly meant that nothing was there at all, then what is nothingness itself? And if "emptiness" meant everything was gone, then what would emptiness itself be? If nothing really were existent, then even the concept of a name would not be there. In other words, the cultivation of a Great Way without form is really a formless kind of form.
You know, historically, whether it was Shakyamuni, Laozi, Jesus, or the many other Enlightened Ones or saints who taught their Fa or Dao in pre-history, they invariably took one of two approaches. One was to leave the secular world and cultivate, and the other was to take the form that Christianity and Catholicism use. For this reason, and drawing from past experiences, people have formed narrow understandings of divine beings and formed a sort of culture.
That's why as soon as you mention things like a being elevating, rising, cultivating, and so on, the world's people think about the formats that religion has used in the past and present. But these religions' formats are not the only ones in the cosmos, and they can't represent the various Law’s that boundless numbers of divine beings each validated, or the formats that each of them used to accomplish that. The number of gods at even each tiny level is so large that it's innumerable, so how could those two formats represent everything? They definitely can't. Then, exactly how many formats for cultivation are there?
There are eighty-four thousand cultivation disciplines in the Buddhist System and thirty-six hundred cultivation disciplines in the Daoist System. In fact, that was said from the vantage point of a very small level, that is the understanding at a certain level, and it was taught only to the extent that human beings could comprehend. You know, there are Buddhas beyond Buddhas, there are Heavens beyond Heavens, and there are Gods beyond Gods. So how big is the cosmos? It is just boundlessly and endlessly immense.”Excerpt 2:
“Daoists talk about Nothingness. If you go by Daoist theory, they believe that Non-Being (Wuji) generates the Supreme Ultimate (Taiji), the Supreme Ultimate generates the Two Polarities (Liangyi), the Two Polarities generate the Four Phases (Sixiang), and the Four Phases generate the Eight Trigrams (Bagua). They think that when it gets to Non-Being that’s the highest, that it’s in the state of Chaos (Hundun), and that in the state of Chaos nothing exists.
But Daoists with a higher understanding said that [at a certain point] even Chaos doesn’t exist, that it’s empty, that that is the highest, and that there’s nothing. Think about it, these words seem to have reached the end, right? But they haven’t. And why not? How can you speak of it when there’s nothing? So how about we call it “there’s nothing,” call it “Emptiness,” or call it Nothingness”? (People laugh) Isn’t that the idea?
So, when there’s nothing, if you trace further into the microcosm, into the infinite microcosm, you’ll see that something is there again. But those beings’ forms of existence are quite different from the existence of the elements of the matter in the cosmic bodies down below, and their truths are different, too, and it’s as if they’re totally different from each other. But there’s something there again.
Despite that, at a certain point there will be nothing again, and at a certain point, as you trace further you’ll discover that there’s something there again and that that’s even more microcosmic. So you can’t understand it if you use human language to describe or understand it. When it gets to a certain, larger range, the differences are even greater, and it’s even more of a different matter altogether. So what do you call that state? That really can’t be described by human language.”