The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

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The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

Postby Hyperion » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:08 am

Many salvia trips involve people describing inanimate objects around them coming alive, like couches, chairs etc and sometimes even communicating with the person. This is fascinating as it correlates with what Mr Li Hongzhi, founder of Falun Dafa has to say, check out these lecture excerpts:

Excerpt 1:

"When people regard things as being “organic” or “inorganic,” it is based only on the phenomena that people see, visually, at the surface. All things, including the products manufactured by factories, are alive. If something weren’t alive it would quickly disintegrate and cease to exist. People have claimed that with supernormal powers a person can see that everything in someone’s room—be it tables, chairs, stools, walls—can speak with them and communicate with them. And that is indeed the case. All things are alive. And that is why monks and cultivators of the past wouldn’t carelessly waste or ruin things and would try to avoid damaging anything. It was related to that."

Excerpt 2:

"Human beings and animals aren’t the only ones with life in them, plants have it too. All matter appears in the form of life in other dimensions. When your Third Eye reaches the Law Vision level, you’ll discover that stones, walls, or whatever will all talk to you and greet you."

Excerpt 3:

"When I say "sentient beings," it's not in fact limited to the human race. All objects, regardless of whether modern science considers them organic or inorganic, are in fact alive. Everything is alive."

Excerpt 4:

"Think about it, how many particles make up a human body? And these are just things within your own scope. A human being is also a being that exists in the scope of this environment, just like a sponge being soaked in water. This world is like water, and the microcosmic beings and matter are so numerous that the density is like that of water. Wherever you are, within your scope there are pretty huge, gigantic microcosmic beings that correspond to your body.

So when a person cultivates, you haven’t just cultivated the layers upon layers of your own body, the cells of the layers upon layers of your particles are all in your image. And have you thought about this: after you magnify a cell of a particle, aren’t there still countless beings on it? And could there be beings that are in the image of man? So how many cells like that are there? Actually, to microcosmic beings your cell is their planet. And it’s not just cells—how many microcosmic particles make up a cell?

A cell or a microcosmic particle in your image is the King of all beings in that particle, and all the countless beings in there are governed by it. If you don’t cultivate yourself well your cells won’t be well-cultivated; if you have cultivated yourself well your cells are well-cultivated, and the beings in the domain of your cells’ jurisdiction are well-cultivated. Then think about it, when one being succeeds in cultivation, how many beings are successfully cultivated as a result?"
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Re: The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

Postby Flapjack » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:53 pm

This sounds like a bunch of made up stuff, except for the fact that plants are living things, but there might be something living about nonliving objects.

We would first have to redefine what life is. Only living things are made of cells and are able to reproduce and evolve, which would definitely not include plastic or elemental things. A chair would be dead, perhaps, being made of dead plant cells.

It sounds like the author meant to say that chairs and other objects might have some capacity to communicate or interact with the world, which I definitely think is true.

Take for instant the interaction between an elementary particle, the electron, and a single proton. How does the electron know when the proton is close by? It responds to it, it is able to detect it somehow and interacts with it. This interaction can be explained, for the most part, by the existence of a force field, which is able to send signals back and forth between the electron and proton.

So, in some sense, the electron and proton are able to communicate with each other and also detect other things in their environment via force fields. Does this mean they have some very basic form of consciousness? They are able to respond to other particles and, seemingly, communicate across spacetime to these particles, causing them to bind or repel away from one another. How do two particles 'know' that the other is there? There is a disturbance in the forcefield, which then allows them to 'sense' one another. In some small way, they are communicating with and sensing the world around them.

In everyday life, most phenomena are governed by the atomic and subatomic interactions between particles. Say for instance, when you touch a button on your computer keyboard. It is a force field, more specifically, the electromagnetic forcefield that prevents your finger from fusing with or going through the key, and, of course, pressing the key signals the computer via the electromagnetic force by completing a small circuit in the keyboard.

So, I would say that you wouldn't actually be able to have a conversation with atoms or chairs, but they are able to send and receive signals quite mysteriously, and I'm unsure that this has been completely explained by modern physics.

On salvia, on the other hand, you are fucked out of your mind, and can certainly do anything. Try to talk to a refrigerator sober and see if that ever happens.
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Re: The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

Postby Flapjack » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:10 am

salvia's a fckn whore
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Re: The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

Postby Hyperion » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:45 am

FlapJack, here is something interesting that Dave Pendell wrote about Salvia in his book 'Pharmako/poeia'. Something that the natives didn't want to tell the Spanish about this plant, it's an excerpt from one of the natives I believe:

Her real name must not be told--
Her real name is closer to Medusa than to Mary.
"They came with crosses--
they came to drag us
from our huts, from our beds,
the soldiers that serve the priests."
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Re: The Curious Case Of Sentient Inanimate Objects

Postby Raa » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:18 am

what matter

heres a part of freud's letter to jung

“My dear Jung, promise me never to abandon the sexual theory. That is the most essential thing of all. You see, we must make a dogma of it, an unshakable bulwark”
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