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Re: Jesus -

Postby Flapjack » Tue May 24, 2011 12:36 am

lol, Wayne makes all this shit up on the spot though

http://youtu.be/c7tOAGY59uQ
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Re: Jesus

Postby Flapjack » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:18 am

I think I figured it out, man.
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Re: Jesus

Postby god_is_good » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:23 pm

Don't worry, you're not stealing it! The copyright is long expired. Also, I highly recommend a more modern translation, like the NRSV (NSRV? I always get them confused). The KJV is written in Elizabethan English, but there's no reason to consider it a more authoritative translation. A lot of American and English Protestants decided on it as the definitive version to avoid conflicts. But the Bible is a collection of books written originally in Greek and Hebrew.

Personally, I think that people who have religious experiences are likely to interpret them first through the cultural lenses that are available to them. I kind of agree with the Jewish/Islamic view of God as indivisible and not personified in Jesus Christ, but I understand the core message of Christianity as being an existential one: "Escape the world of Sin and Death through radical love of the other." So, although I am not a believing-saved-in-the-blood Christian, some of it's doctrines, like the Cross, original sin, agape (radical love of the other) and kenosis (self emptying) make sense to me. But I have never been baptized and never taken to communion, and haven't attended a church service since I was a very young child.
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Re: Jesus

Postby Flapjack » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:17 pm

I've gone to church again out of curiosity, but I didn't find what I was looking for, which was God.
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Re: Jesus -

Postby Gnostic Bishop » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:00 pm

Flapjack wrote:Would Jesus be similar to a higher self? And that's why I need him to get into heaven? I'm trying to believe in Jesus, but I'm not sure how. I've always just gone straight to God and never really understood how Jesus fit into the picture.

Are there any Christains out there that can explain this to me? I'm honestly interested. Maybe I need to read the bible.


Hell no. The bible will just screw you up.

I am a Gnostic Christian and yes, Jesus is you, if you choose to follow that path to the real and only God you will ever know. Yourself.

Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers after God. God here I define God as the best laws and rules to live life with.

We believe that those laws and rules, as Jesus said, are found in our minds/hearts.

I use the following to try to illustrate this notion. A bit of history and then a mindset and method to do what I promote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02cia ... =PLCBF574D

The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized to activate your higher mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbes ... r_embedded

This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human and a brethren to Jesus.

Regards
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Re: Jesus

Postby Flapjack » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:05 pm

Reading the Bible was pretty beneficial, actually. I'm not sure if you will truly find God, but there's something in there.
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Re: Jesus

Postby Flapjack » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:20 am

If you read the Bible, your life will change in some way. If anything, you will gain insight into the culture.

I think everyone should read it.
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Re: Jesus

Postby Flapjack » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:51 am

Reading the Bible sucks because you just forget it after awhile like everything else
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Re: Jesus

Postby Sandertristan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:11 am

Oh my!! I believe that we all have a God of our own..like everybody has a specific supernatural being for himself..and Jesus is like the guide to having such a God..
i do not know if am making sense but i believe Jesus is like a moral compass to everybody...If we never knew of His existence then this world would be in ashes.
Living a life full of giving
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Re: Jesus

Postby EssCee » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:43 pm

So there are a lot of questions about Christ you can ask.
I am a Catholic Philosopher. We use any number of Catholic versions of the bible.

So I come at God from a Logos perspective originating from Aristotle to Augustine to Aquinas then CS Lewis and even Peterson now.
This means God is "truth" therefore looking for any truth is looking for God. It also means question all of man, we could be feeding each other lines of BS when God is just around the corner and we just haven't looked in the right place yet.

This also means I choose Philosophy or Religion over Theology. Meaning Logic over Scripture or Passed Down story.

As far as Christ, I believe. However, this leads to a TON of philosophical questions. If God controls the universe could he have chosen to just forgive our sins instead of making himself suffer? If the Jews were "being right" would we have needed Christ?
There are some harder to grasp questions about this. There is prophecy from the old testament, but that would mean "man could control God" if it had to be fulfilled just because it was written.

My current question is about the very first thing ever. God couldn't be the first thing because if it was fully formed, then there would have had to be a precursor to it. Meaning God wasn't first no matter what. If it pulled itself out of something, then that something was first. What created it? That first moment from nonexistence to existence.. from nothing to space for anything to be at all. That question.

Gonna direct our chat dudes here. :)

Good conversations!
Case for Christ is a good one if you think the Jesus Myth or Bart Ehrman have a point. It contradicts both with a lot of written history.
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