Calamus

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Post by witchammer » Thu May 24, 2012 2:09 am

swim just purchased 15x extract and he has no experience with it though he has heard that fresh roots are better. I am going camping in Upstate New York and understand that this brings you close to nature. He might also bring some shrooms that he grew last year but would keep the dosage really low as full on trips are not his thing anymore as he found out during the hurricane last year, Woah! I haven't had time to utfse yet but thought I would get this new fresh thread going. Anyway Calamus?

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Post by catfishrivers » Thu May 24, 2012 8:01 am

It doesn't taste good but the best way I've had calamus is a straight up cold water extract steeped overnight about 10-12 hours. The experience was like the onset of a trip without launching full on balls to the walls. I would make a cold tea, drink it up and try hiking around. It gave me some extra energy but not the speedy kind.
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Re: Calamus

Post by witchammer » Thu May 24, 2012 8:47 am

do you mean extracting it yourself from fresh roots? If so I wouldn't know where to get them. Swim is also a little concerned about dosage as I hear stomach issues may occur

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Post by catfishrivers » Fri May 25, 2012 12:12 am

no I had the dried slices of the roots. I let them steep them cold water over night, shaking it as often as I felt compelled to. I used 20 gr of it I think and drank the whole extract the next day. It was ready the next day, prob 18 hours or so. It was like the onset of shrooms or cacti type experience. Never launching into full blown anything, but some perma grin smiles and giggle moments, with a crispness imbued into the air and the way things looked was more colorful. It was nice. Like diet trips.

I prefer acorus gramineus. The taste (and nausea issues) are much better suited for an enjoyable experience. It almost tastes like ginger ale with sweetener added. Acorus calamus has a hard to swallow taste. It does make me retch a bit and the cwe for that is not as easy to drink, but it's not horrid really. Drinking cacti slurpies is 100x more disgusting.

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Re: Calamus

Post by Dr Zzz » Fri May 25, 2012 3:57 am

Yeah cold infusion seems to be the way to go if you do not tolerate the taste. But after years of enthusiast usage I find that the quidding is much more effective. In fact I always get better effects when quidding a little bit for a long time than when eating a lot of the root. One gets used to the taste an the naueating effect. I can eat, not chew, good amounts of acorus calamus without any disconfort or vomiting.

Essencial oil is perhaps an alternative. Mixed with a carrier oil and used transdermally should be interresting. I never tried it.

Calamus is extremely similar in its effects to a low, sub-psychedelic dose of cactus, or elemi oil. In fact some batches contain elemicin. Gentian comes to mind, it has elemicin too and has some similarities with calamus, in my opinion. It is very healthy and can be chewed/quidded just the same way.

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Re: Calamus

Post by witchammer » Fri May 25, 2012 7:06 am

thank you, all good info

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Post by catfishrivers » Sat May 26, 2012 10:46 am

Dr Zzz, what would be a good carrier oil for calamus essential oil? I have a bottle that I tried vaporizing small amounts of oil to decent effect but it killed my lungs each try...I'd love to experiment with transdermal application. Can you flesh out how to go about doing so? What carrier oils work well? What concentration of calamus oil to carrier oil do you suggest? And where to apply the oil? The wrists? Thanks! Great info!
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Re: Calamus

Post by Dr Zzz » Sun May 27, 2012 5:00 pm

I use olive oil. That's because it's the only oil I have, as I use it for cooking. I don't know how good it is compared to other oils, but it works.

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Post by catfishrivers » Sun May 27, 2012 5:54 pm

Excellent! What would you say a good ratio would be?
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Re: Calamus

Post by Dr Zzz » Mon May 28, 2012 6:09 am

I do not mix the oils. What I do is :
- Apply a generous amount of olive oil on my skin
- Dose EO drop by drop on the same spot, then rub

As I never tried calamus EO I'd say experiment, be cautious, start low. Transdermal dosage of EO is extremly effective, I doubt you'll need a lot. With basil and elemi I can feel something with a single drop. I'd start from there with calamus too.

There are two "schools" some prefer to rub on big muscles, I myself found thin skin aeras more effective. I guess the first emulates IM an the second SC.

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